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flemmings ([personal profile] flemmings) wrote2006-05-22 08:41 pm

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Because I feel ijiwaru I shall post the translation to the spring Gaiden episode that hasn't yet appeared online. Well, not on many people's line, whatever.

The karma may be that Enrai is the spitting image of Yakumo, but that's not what I mean.

p.1 Lamentation for the one still buried, even now, amid that pale crimson

p.2 The road to despair up ahead

p.3 F/X hurtling bodies
mad dash
The four rebels who have crept into the imperial palace

p.4 are headed towards the deepest level of the castle basements, making for the dimension gate that leads to the lower world
Soldier: Don't let them get away! Kill them if you must!
On the way they break through a guarded passage on the first floor of the northern wing
Konzen: (surprise)
Gokuu: Here they come!
Soldier: (grunt)
F/X Gokuu trips the soldier

p5 Soldier: Damn kid-- guhhh!
F/X Konzen's heeled sandal digs into soldier
Kenren: It's the door at the end of the corridor, Konzen!
F/X door pushed open
Konzen: Gokuu! Hurry!
Gokuu: (grunts as he kicks)
F/X soldier goes flying

p.6 F/X thud of running feet
Soldier: WAIT!!
F/X soldier's gurgle as Tenpou jabs him with his sheathed sword
Kenren: Get in here, Tenpou!!
F/X Kenren kicks door shut

p.7 F/X Tenpou and Gokuu panting
Konzen: gasping for breath
Kenren: You OK, Konzen?
Konzen: Yeah...
Kenren: Looks like they're not going to give us a rest.
Konzen: What?
F/X squadron on upper level with bows drawn aiming at the guys

p.8 (round chamber ringed with archers)

p.9 (hollow noise)
Konzen: What...?
Konzen: (thinks) We're surrounded?!
Tenpou: Should have known- you're a bright boy-
Second Squadron leader of the Western army

p.10 Tenpou: Enrai.
Enrai: I'm honoured by your good opinion of me, Marshal Tenpou
Tenpou: Right now I'm just a nameless fugitive. Oh, and I've resigned as marshal
Kenren: Enrai- he was leader of the first squadron before I was
He and Tenpou didn't get along so he was moved to another division.
Enrai: So you're resigned to your fate?
Tenpou: Not yet! Or rather, how about just overlooking our existence?
Enrai: ...you always did take your jokes too far

P11 Enrai: I always figured someone like you didn't know how the men who followed you felt.
Tenpou: Nothing of the sort. I just get on best with people who like joking too.
Enrai: And because you're that kind of officer, you were content to have a mere fourteen men attached to you.
Kenren: I don't care what you say about us two. But I won't keep my mouth shut while you make fun of my squadron

p.12 Enrai: Really? So what are you going to do?
You have a nerve, acting big when things are like this.
Tenpou: Don't stop- just keep running through them.
Konzen: What?
Enrai: I'm going to give you what you deserve
You filthy--

p.13 Enrai: RATS!! (J note: well, hedgehogs, actually, but really...)
Tenpou: RUN!!!
F/X flat out running
Enrai: Shoot them!!!
F/x bows drawn back
Voices: Guahh! Guh!
F/X blows

p.14 Enrai soldier: Gah---!!
(Enrai's men fall with arrows in them)
(Kenren's men fighting)
Kenren: !!?
F/X one of Enrai's men falls from the parapet
Kenren: You guys--?

P15 F/X sound of hand-to-hand fight
Kenren soldier: Are you alright, General?! Marshal?
Tenpou: What are you doing here??
F/X wounded soldier groans

P.16 Enrai: So the mice have come out--
F/X Enrai soldier grunts as Kenren soldier kicks him
Kenren soldier 1: We'll take over here
Kenren soldier 2: Go on ahead while you can, General!
Kenren: *Cut it out!!* You guys can't get involved in this!!
Tenpou: We're not your commanding officers any more!!
Soldier: --sorry! Can't hear what you're saying, marshal!

P.17 Soldier: 'In the absence of orders take personal responsibility'- that's our squadron's motto, right?
Soldier: That barbecue was really good, General!
Kenren: sheesh- these assholes!
(flashback) Kenren to Tenpou: Everyone wants to fight *with* you!
Konzen: Tenpou!!

P.18 F/X Enrai's swordstroke
Enrai: (yells) Ooohh--!!!
F/X Tenpou's sword sheath falls to the ground

P19 F/X Enrai spits blood
F/X blood spurt
F/X Tenpou's sword stroke?

p.20 Tenpou: --this is my final order
Kill them all!
Don't leave a single man alive who saw you here. Do you hear me!!

p.21 Soldiers: YES SIR!!!
F/X Tenpou and Kenren start running again
Tenpou: Good. We're out of here.
F/X Enrai soldiers guarding the door prepare for attack
Kenren soldier: But in that case--
The General and the Marshal will get all the glory of having killed this lot!
Enrai soldier: Don't let them get away! Kill them!
Kenren: (laughs) Don't be such a party-pooper.

P22
F/X Kenren's gun firing
F/X Tenpou runs soldier through
Soldier: Gahhh---
Gokuu: Ten-chan--
Ken nii-san, hurry!

p.23 F/X Kenren's boot step
Soldier: Take care, Marshal, General!
Soldier: Let's have some more barbecue!
Kenren: Got it, got it!
Next time it'll be the first class special
F/X doors slam
Enrai soldier: (frustration)
Kenren soldier: Eizen! Goyou!
F/X Enrai soldier punches Tenpou soldier

p.24 Kenren soldier: We're gonna carry out this mission no matter what. This is the Western army, first squadron's final battle.
Tenpou: Well then, let's be on our way.
The longer it takes the more people we'll have after us.
Kenren: Tenpou

p.25 Kenren: Next time we split the cost.
Tenpou: But naturally.
Tenpou (to Gokuu): Are you afraid of me?
F/X Gokuu shakes his head

p.26 Gokuu: I figured, whatever happens I'll always like you, Ken-nii and Ten-chan.
The way those guys back there did.

[identity profile] mauvecloud.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
i was only asking, but after reading the post the thing has turned into one of those idea fixee thingies
*plugs fingers into ears* la-la-la

death is not necessary; demotion might be sufficient. (eh you! go and be a beast of burden to th0se stinky monks! and do not show your face here until you've worked your way to paying for the damages blah blah blah)

also, 'regards Heaven's commands as absolute, etc' might be written in jest. Perhaps the assistant was in mood for parody. Moreover, Dragons are big on appearances and then running into the room and doing exactly the opposite thing. They like being the biggest, especially when it comes to hypocrites =P

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)
You give me renewed hope. I was resigned to No he's not. Demotion might indeed be sufficient, and I take your (Chinese) word on how Chinese dragons behave.

What we do know is that at some point Goujun is sitting and writing either his memoirs (by the sound of it) or a report to someone higher up. 'I am the only person who can now relate what happened after this.' (I speak without book because I can *never* find my monthly Gaiden eps. I keep putting them in a safe place and then forgetting what the safe place is.) Goujun has a scarred cut through one eye so I assume time has passed, and he goes on to talk about what happened while he was being held hostage.

If time works differently then indeed he might have been sent Down There sometime later to be a jeep by, well, whoever has authority over dragon kings' incarnations. Uhh- who does? Any idea?

(I assure you nothing in that section of Saiyuubito (the main portion of the bokk IIRC) was written in jest. It's a dismally literal rehash of exactly what one sees in the manga and anime.)

[identity profile] mauvecloud.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I remember this translation (of yours). When I first read that it felt like he was writing this memoirs because he was going to go away (and as you said if the time work differently deal is assumed, soon).

Uhh- who does? Any idea?
Any of the other compass points will do I suppose. I am rusty on my chinese legend bits anyway :P

Also, the one-eyed jab reminds me. One-eyed dragon (too lazy to key in kanji: here be literal representations: One - Eye - Dragon). It's like your typical lecherous third henchman/bandit from left character in those old old kungfu movies =P

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Mhh. But why would one of Goujun's brotehrs order him down below to help out Kanzeon's former nephew and friends? I mean, Jade Emperor or Kanzeon, fine, except the lines of power in Heaven are a bit complicated.

Long ago a quasi-Japanese or possibly Chinese someone was insisting on the ML that Goujun's army was his own private one and he had a kind of separate but equal status to the Celestials. She wouldn't cite any proof for the view and got quite shirty when asked for it, in a kind of 'it just *is* don't keep asking me how do I know dammit' sort of way (is why I thought her Japanese. Never ask why.) I've kept 'power relations' mentally flagged since then just on the off chance that everyone does know that somewhere.

Chinese one eyed dragons 角眼龍 are one thing; Japanese ones are another (http://flemmings.livejournal.com/74037.html). Yes I'm being insufferably self-referential today. Why do you ask?

[identity profile] mauvecloud.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
*knuckles head*
i was remembering the original one where it was a minor dragon (Goujun's son?) who got sent down. In his case it was some sort of a marital dispute(?) and he caused a bit of ruckus among the dragons and since he was a junior I just assumed that the Senior Four handed out the punishment. So in Gaiden case, the perpetrator being one of the Big Four himself... I am stumped :P I suppose they could demote him, appoint another West and that would make him a junior. *knuckles head again*

Why do you ask?
Because I am feeling ijiwaru and I wanted to see that post again. And sorry, for the chinese thing I was thinking of 獨眼龍. I will have to beg for more (self- or otherwise-) references with regard to 角眼龍. Seriously, yes, thanks for Date Masamune reference.

Going nowhere ><:

[identity profile] mauvecloud.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
But why would one of Goujun's brotehrs order him down below to help out Kanzeon's former nephew and friends?

Gyah. ><; Just realized that I was not answering the question above at all.
Does this hierarchy below make sense?

Kanzeon --> Big Four a.k.a. Compass Points --> Dragons

Re: Going somewhere actually

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
No no cancel above, that's me being heat-stroked. Of course it's 独眼龍. The 角 was me half-remembering 独角+ji as in obscure kanji MIME doesn't have.

In the original Goujun's son sets fire by accident to one of his father's palaces burns up a bunch of his pearls wasn't it, is flogged hung bleeding in the sky and sentenced to death in several hundred days. Heavy Chinese fathers 'r us. Along comes Kanzeon who intercedes for him with the Emperor and saves his life on condition that he bear Tripitaka/ Sanzou/ Whatever you wanna call him on his journey to the west. This is a case where canon can be thrown out...

...stop right there. No. No, not at all. You could work it that way rather well. Goujun about to be dismissed in disgrace Kanzeon puts in good word for him on condition that. Yes, yes indeed...

Re: Going somewhere actually

[identity profile] mauvecloud.livejournal.com 2006-06-01 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh well, kanji: My command of the thing is not so steady, that's why I asked (actually, it's barely there -_-;). Yes, now the long-forgotten Brother Dearest is dragged from the murky memories....

This set-up looks too good to be true. /sigh
Someone All-Powerful (i.e., Minekura) is sure gonna spoil it for us adherents of the Goujun-Becomes-Chibi-Slave-Dragon cult!

Re: Going somewhere actually

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2006-06-01 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Now now. Never understimate the usefulness of mauve clouds. Here's (http://mjj.laleeloo.com/saiyuuki/leaveofabsence.htm) the result of your musings from yesterday. Enjoy.