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flemmings ([personal profile] flemmings) wrote2009-03-07 02:21 pm
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Why are there no sossidges for my grandson!

So I'm learning hanzi, yes? It's a soothing occupation. I spend an hour or so a night at it, reviewing old ones and learning new. I mean for certain values of 'new' because I know most of these characters in some context or other, though it's amazing how many obscure Japanese kanji you can learn while studying the basic Chinese hanzi. I start with my simplified hanzi book which has instructive mnemonic stories about giants and fairies and teddy bears and dwarfs, to represent the various tones (not that I'm trying to learn tones) and some close but no cigar English word to suggest the reading (not that I'm trying to learn the readings either: my goal, truly, is to be able to read Chinese subtitles in English.) And then for fun I go look at my traditional hanzi textbook where the hanzi are, generally, more familiar (bar a few WTF ones) and where they give and name the elements as well, most instructively but also occasionally WTFish because the evolution of Chinese, I begin to think, is just Like That. ('This character used to mean blah-blah but it sounded like yaddayadda so now we use it for that, and somewhere along the way we added an extra element just so you'd *know* it meant 'country' and not 'lance.') And then because kanji study makes me very sleepy I go to bed and sleep deeply.

But there's one very basic necessity for studying foreign languages.

Flash cards. Flash cards on a ring. And I could swear I'd had them here when I was first learning Japanese twenty years ago; but then I remember that no, no I didn't; I had to cut file cards in half and punch holes in them to make my flash card ring. And I could swear I'd seen them at, say, the dollar stores which import so many Japanese-type things like four-coloured pens, but no, they're not there either. Midoco the stationery store has 2 x 2.5" flash cards on a ring, but it calls them file cards and they're lined and they're in, of all things, designer colours like teal. No pen shows up against a teal background, guys.

So, amazing as it seems, an item that's available in any Tokyo conveni is not to be had for love or money in Toronto, where people don't study languages as a hobby and review vocabulary on the train. Maybe the Japanese don't either, anymore. Maybe they study from their net-attached cell phones. But I don't have a cell phone.

Necessity is the mother of invention. I must have my flash cards for reviewing hanzi in what passes for a kissa in TO, since memory still won't hold on to all the meanings after one or two passes, or the readings either even though y'know I'm not trying to learn the readings. So I find little mailing tags with holes in them, about the same size as yer average flash card, and I find metal rings that will go through them, et voila, I now have flash cards. Go me.

[identity profile] mvrdrk.livejournal.com 2009-03-08 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
LOL! I can send you flashcards. What size? Kino's carries 4 or 5 different sizes and I get them for the little one all the time. All the preprinted Chinese flash cards I know of are large, as in pre-school sized.

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2009-03-08 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
Really really? Oh, thank you. The ones I'm used to are in the 2.5 x 1.5 inch (plus-minus 6x3.5 cm) range, but really I'll take anything. No rush, because I have a *lot* of mailing tags and can get about 4 hanzi to a side.

large, as in pre-school sized.

Count me among the pre-schoolers. Luckily my eyesight's not that bad yet. Never found the pre-printed Japanese ones that helpful either, though they were good for compounds, I guess. But vocabulary is the step after this, bar words I recognize from Woxin.

[identity profile] mvrdrk.livejournal.com 2009-03-08 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
Okay. I'll get you a pile of them.

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2009-03-08 12:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Define pile. ^_^ Three will last me for years, if Japanese is anything to judge by.

[identity profile] kazeko.livejournal.com 2009-03-08 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
Haha. I'm Chinese and I have problems with writing too. The speech part is sooooo much easier. ;_;

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2009-03-08 12:29 pm (UTC)(link)
There I beg to differ, vehemently and with much bad language. The speech part is easier if you've been doing it since birth. Try it as a middle-aged auntie accustomed to English phonics and it becomes 'but the human tongue can't *do* that' (when it isn't 'but I can't *hear* the difference between the high tone and the rising tone, much less say it.') Hanzi are a cakewalk by comparison.

It's just that the Japanese gave them different meanings from the Chinese, so that 'attack' in Japanese, which forms part of the compounds for subjugate and exterminate and raid, in Chinese is a blameless 'ask for.'