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flemmings ([personal profile] flemmings) wrote2011-02-20 07:57 pm
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Eggs

I love poached eggs but have never been able to manage them myself. At home we had an egg poacher-- separate little tins that cooked over a shallow pan of boiling water-- but they were probably aluminum and anyway, it vanished when we split up the family house's effects. Then there's the microwave poacher that should be failproof; but even if you prick the yolks I find they explode, and even if you butter the poacher the resulting egg is exceeding dry. But the cook at work was talking about these fabulous eggs benedict he'd made on the weekend, and I moaned about not being able to poach eggs, and he told me how to do it. The usual white vinegar in 3/4 full small saucepan, whisk water into a whirlpool, drop egg, let simmer, et voila. Have done so.

It still involves some trial and error, as in

a) males may be able to whisk with one hand and break eggs with the other, but I can't. The result was many fancy Chinese goldfish eggs and/or much white froth boiling over the edge of the pan. I need a shallow glass dish to slide the egg in; also to stop whisking while I do it. Also room temperature eggs.

b) The egg sinks at first. Hence one needs a no-stick pan.

c) You can only do one at a time. Others can, and must, manage several, but not I. (Nor the cook, either.)

But oh poached eggs are wonderful. They plump up where fried eggs flatten and boiled eggs go dense. There Can Be Only One is probably fortunate, or I'd eat more than I should.

[identity profile] mvrdrk.livejournal.com 2011-02-21 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Mmm! I now have to go make some!

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2011-02-21 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
Good luck! (I have mine on caraway rye bread, because caraway rye bread makes everything taste better, but it's not mandatory.)

[identity profile] paleaswater.livejournal.com 2011-02-21 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
Yum. I always love poached egg in noodle soups. Mine were always irregular and misshapen, but they're delicious anyways, especially with drop of sesame oil. now I'll attempt a pretty and round one using this method.

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2011-02-21 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
Not exactly round for me-- kind of ovaloid.

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2011-02-21 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
Should add, before you drop the egg in you must lower the heat to medium if you've had it on high boil. This is easier done on a gas stove, natch, but on an electric you turn it to what A calls the 3 position. Presumably the 3 o'clock?

[identity profile] paleaswater.livejournal.com 2011-02-23 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
yes, I learned that the hard way. Water has to be still or the whites break up. >_<

have you tried steamed eggs?

[identity profile] paleaswater.livejournal.com 2011-02-26 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, it's very easy. You beat the egg with some broth, maybe same amt of egg and broth. And then you can either add a little scallion or not as you like, or a few clam if you're being fancy. And then steam in a bowl over very very low heat until it becomes a very light custard. Then you sprinkle some soy sauce and sesame oil on it, and eat it with rice.

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2011-02-26 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Sounds yummy, but what kind of broth? Am thinking Japanese dashi sort of thing, but is that used in Chinese cooking?

[identity profile] i-am-zan.livejournal.com 2011-02-28 09:24 am (UTC)(link)
sounds a little like chawanmushi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chawanmushi) which wiki of course says that it is similar to chinese steamed eggs.

here someone talks about both (http://momofukufor2.com/2010/04/chawan-mushi-recipe/) with pretty pictures.

Coincidentally the word 'chawan' means cup in Malay ... I often wonder about loanwords from other languages incorporated into Malay. Unfortunately not being a scholar in the language I can only wonder. After all the only Malay we've ever donated to the English language is the unsavoury 'amok' ! ^_~

[identity profile] paleaswater.livejournal.com 2011-03-01 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
Just the canned chicken broth you get from supermarket, or water and a bit of chicken flavor cube if you don't have anything.

[identity profile] i-am-zan.livejournal.com 2011-02-21 09:03 am (UTC)(link)
I am the same as you ... I love poached eggs too BUT I fail big time at them and there's no way I can fail at more than one at any time so we just stick to the scrambled type, or the omelette or the sunny side up kind. ^_^

but well done you! Sounds yummy.

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2011-02-21 01:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you re-netted now, or is this just a pass-by comment?

[identity profile] i-am-zan.livejournal.com 2011-02-22 05:42 am (UTC)(link)
Sadly no, this is a drive by comment - my niece still needs babysitting. ^_^. To top it all off it now seems that my little laptop is also on it's last legs (hubby begs to differ by telling me it's all dead! *sigh*)

Ste says we'll need a whole new set up type thing. He tested the internet on his notebook type thing and sas the internet is fine. So really when we'll get set up I have no idea. I am hoping this coming weekend, as I think he misses the internet more than me. ^_~

Also also .... $45 for a poacher? Although there are some really swanky places here that would charge more for kitchen items. *shrugs* designer cookware is a big seller here.

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2011-02-22 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm surprised Ste has gamaned this far. Readers can read when things go out but nerds need their net.

Oh yes. Can be found cheaper in the Chinese stores always, but upscale charges what the market will bear.

[identity profile] i-am-zan.livejournal.com 2011-02-28 09:15 am (UTC)(link)
oohhh kedgeree! Now I haven't had that in a long time too ^__^ and it only feels like it gets that hot, and maybe on car engines already hot from use and being metal, but not on a counter top.

I do drink a lot of tea though ... hot tea is refreshing even in the heat!

Still internetless, but reading your future posts I hope your own pc woes have been fixed. Nerd goes to work for his internet fixes and when he comes home he paints little orcs for his wargaming habit. ^_^

I've not actually gone insane yet as I've squeezed in reading my girl's library books and even a little excercise each day ... shock horror! I needed to really, as Chinese New Year feasting at friends' have left me heavier. And also looking after my niece is nice because we're getting to know a little more about each other. I'm glad (in spite of her parents, don't get me wrong I love them, just some of their ideas ... leave me speechless sometimes) to find that she's quite a savvy little girl and not quite as blinkered as her parents seem to think. I am foreseeing that there might be a few battles on my sister's hands in the future. ^_^

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2011-02-28 01:02 pm (UTC)(link)
We have a phrase over here- 'so hot you can fry eggs on the sidewalk.' Given the unrelenting humidity of LRD, I guessed you could boil eggs on the counter. ^_^

Oh fine. He has internet at work. Good for *him*. Prod him a bit more about getting the expert in.

And go your niece. Near future, the way these things go these days.

[identity profile] deepfryerfire.livejournal.com 2011-02-21 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I have seen somewhere these adorable little green silicon poaching pods that you crack the eggs into beforehand and then let them float on the water. Can't remember where, though.

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2011-02-21 04:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Googling 'poachers' reveals that the current version of our aluminum pan goes for about $45. Possibly an upscale kitchen store? or maybe Ikea?
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[identity profile] mikeneko.livejournal.com 2011-02-23 09:36 am (UTC)(link)
I just had to explain to [livejournal.com profile] xsmoonshine what a poached egg is and how and why one makes them. In the process, I was looking up my egg poacher, so I will share. I have one like this (http://www.amazon.com/Norpro-Nonstick-Omelet-Removable-Poacher/dp/B000JQ2YCC). It's not that expensive, and it works just dandy.

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2011-02-23 01:28 pm (UTC)(link)
The poached egg is unknown in the colonies? La, you amaze me. Next you'll say LRD has never heard of kedgeree. Though I can understand people not wanting to boil water in S'pore for any reason ('stick an egg out on the counter and it'll boil by itself'.)

Poached eggs aren't that far a cry from the steamed eggs [livejournal.com profile] paleaswater mentioned upthread, though evidently that's a whole scallion and shrimp omelet.

Nice pan and nice price. I may go looking for those around here.
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[identity profile] mikeneko.livejournal.com 2011-02-23 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
After explanation and discussion, she claimed it's most like this soft-egg mess with soy sauce mess called Ya Kun Kaya toast (http://travelerfolio.com/ya-kun-kaya-toast/). I don't know.

When I was small, I watched a TV professional cook-person poaching an egg in water, the whirlpool in a pan method, to achieve a perfectly formed ball floating in water. (Naturally she cracked her egg with one hand also.) Much later in life, I decided one day to try this myself. MY egg did not turn out a perfectly formed ball like hers. MY egg turned out a stringy, watery mass, much like that of most of the people demonstrating this on YouTube. You need a strainer or a slotted spoon to fish it out.

I prefer an egg poacher. :P

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2011-02-24 12:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Egg poachers are neater, I don't deny. But if you can manage the knack of keeping most of the egg together (even Julia Child says there'll be streamers that you can cut off with scissors) there's a je ne sais quoi that comes of having the whites in direct contact with water.

[identity profile] tentiqa.livejournal.com 2011-02-24 08:37 am (UTC)(link)
I have no idea what a poached egg is either but I do love Ya Kun. ♥

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2011-02-24 12:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Poached eggs are just eggs broken into simmering water, that cook without the shell. You need them for standard 'high class' breakfast dishes like Eggs Benedict. (http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Eggs_Benedict.jpg)

Ya Kun's charcoal grilled toast sounds nice, but the runny eggs seem to be just two very soft-boiled eggs done in the shell. The thing about poached eggs is that the whites firm up from contact with the boiling water, which I like to believe guards against salmonella.

[identity profile] purpleicicles.livejournal.com 2011-02-24 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Have you ever tried those silicone egg poachers? I find them the best way to actually get a whole egg at the end - never had much success any other way :) They're pretty foolproof AND use less water!

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2011-02-25 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
The kind I had wasn't silicone-- aluminum-- and what I have now is the microwavable plastic kind. But as I was saying upthread, there's something about having the eggs cook in water that changes the texture and taste. And of course water supply isn't quite a problem here yet.