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flemmings ([personal profile] flemmings) wrote2009-05-31 02:02 pm
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Novik question

Don't want to read Empire of Ivory. Will I be totally lost if I just dive into Victory of Eagles?

[identity profile] daegaer.livejournal.com 2009-05-31 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
There is a very important development in Empire of Ivory - you will catch up extremely quickly, but the reactions in Victory of Eagles may possibly seem overdone without seeing the set up.

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2009-06-01 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Oh. Hm. Thank you. Maybe things will pick up if I read some more.

[identity profile] nekonexus.livejournal.com 2009-05-31 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, if you're not going to read it anyway, you could get a spoilertastic synopsis and be done with it.

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2009-06-01 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, there you go being *sensible*. Yes, I could; only then I'd feel I'd wasted the money on EoI. Argh. What I really want to do is read Victory and *then* read Empire. (ruminates some more)

[identity profile] nekonexus.livejournal.com 2009-06-01 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
Part III of EoI is pretty much required reading for plot and political set up and big character development issues for VoE. The rest is interesting at times, and picks up as you get further in, but does definitely have its slow times.

That said, I still found it more engaging than the "ho hum, doing the Alexander trek across the globe" in Black Powder War.

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2009-06-01 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, well, Black Powder War was kind of a low point after the wonders of China. Lotsa slog slog and Other People's Armies. My feeling is that Novik doesn't give herself enough time to tell her stories. We're here, we're there, we're somewhere else, people appear, people die, and I'm still not sure who they are. The trouble with riffing off Patrick O'Brian is that he's detailed and leisurely and feels immensely solid because of it, so that the action of the Novik books feels rushed and superficial by comparison.

Not that many people would sit still for more Jonathan Strange-type leisureliness. Still-- most fantasies are thumping thick door stoppers these days; you'd think that page count could be turned to use.

[identity profile] cerisier.livejournal.com 2009-06-03 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
You might be able to get by if you read up on spoilers and then skipped ahead to the last few chapters of Empire of Ivory to read the bits pertinent to Victory of Eagles? If you're the sort of reader who can do that! (I can, but I've been told it's odd. XD;) The middle of EoI is a blur of jungle adventure for me, so I don't think you'd be missing out on too much until they get back to England near the end.

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2009-06-04 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
Mrh. Jungle adventure is so not my thing. But I'll feel like I'm cheating by doing the spoiler thing: One Must Suffer For One's Literature. Then we ask, is Novik literature?