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flemmings ([personal profile] flemmings) wrote2008-10-26 09:41 pm
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I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled

I see memes going around- the Fandom Sins meme, the shipping meme, and I... um, am at a loss. 'My concept of shipping'? 'Cosplay and mimicking characters?'
Have you ever
Stalked some one online/at a con/at school, because of who they cosplayed/RP/remind you of?
Claimed a character as your muse/soulbond/head mate?
Claimed you ARE a given character?
To paraphrase the Brit sitcom that ran before, well, most of you guys were born, "they didn't do things like that when we were alive."

Trundles off with her walker and her fleecy booties...

...still muttering 'Concept of *shipping*???'
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[personal profile] incandescens 2008-10-27 10:05 am (UTC)(link)
... and even if I had done some of the things on that list, I wouldn't admit to them in public.

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2008-10-27 12:54 pm (UTC)(link)
This, as the young'uns also say. Shame is dead; and since I've been campaigning for the death of shame for a while now, why am I not happier?
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[personal profile] incandescens 2008-10-27 01:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Because there's a difference between being (a) ashamed of one's tastes, which is not necessarily a good idea, and (b) being ashamed of one's stupidity, which is a good wholesome force that helps us not to be idiots in future?

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2008-10-27 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Difference between thought and deed? Yes, I think that's it.

Just, writing Mary Sues and writing self-inserts are stages a fanwriter goes through; for some people, possibly necessary stages in learning to interact with somebody else's world. Once you've been you in the Death Note world and seen that world through your own eyes (and found the most basic satisfaction there is in fantasy-- Everything is perfect now!) you can go on to being Light in the DN world and seeing through his eyes and going for something beyond straight wish-fulfillment. I don't think someone in that stage should feel ashamed, or be made to feel ashamed, of doing it.
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[personal profile] incandescens 2008-10-27 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed. As long as they understand that not everyone else will be as interested in reading it as they are, then it's ... a very useful thing, as you say, and maybe even necessary. And one that can be dissassembled later for good bits.

(And besides, we all have our own private Mary Sue daydreams at the back of our heads. I do, at least. The wish-fulfilment dream is still a valid dream.)

[identity profile] avalonjones.livejournal.com 2008-10-27 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
*nod* Mary Sue fic (and fantasizing or whatever you want to call it) has a definite purpose in the world. It's just not necessary (or wise) to plaster it all over the web and insist that it's genius of the highest caliber.