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flemmings ([personal profile] flemmings) wrote2007-06-14 08:43 am
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Ah, yeah. So there was me going on about how all the black characters in my works of choice are Japanese, and all the white characters too. Which is true, of course. But I'd sort of flattered myself that I saw these Japanese characters with the dreads or the blond hair, as per choice, the way the Japanese see them. And now I'm trying to figure out whether I do or not.

Why I'm not so sure has to do with the live action 100 Demons.

It's easier in totally fantasy series to see the brown-skinned chara, the blond chara, and the silver-haired purple-eyed chara as Japanese. Everyone in Bleach *is* Japanese, end of that story. 100 Demons is supernatural rather than fantasy, and the natural side of things, when I come to look at it, is drawn as very Japanese. Everyone in Ritsu's immediate family has the expected dark hair and at any rate not-western features. I could expect to meet any of them on the street in Tokyo, and one thing that puzzled me about the live action series was why, when given these oh-so-common types, they cast different generic types as Ritsu's mother and grandmother. The exceptions to the dark-haired rule are Grandmother, who obviously doesn't count, the rarely seen male cousin, and the businesswoman aunt whom I always read as having her hair coloured or at least frosted.

And Ritsu's father. Erm. One of Ima Ichiko's fair-haired bespectacled Japanese men. Loud alarm bells should go off when you meet one of Ima Ichiko's fair-haired bespectacled Japanese men; and if he's wearing a floppy hat, forget everything, just run.

I don't know if it's the weight of that reading experience or what, but manga Aoarashi doesn't present himself to me as err how to say this? a Japanese body on the same level as the other Japanese bodies around him. He's a youkai (youkai-youkai! youkai! YOUkai! ooohh it's a yoooukai!) Blond, yes? Different. And the thought of slashing him with Ritsu is yuck.

It shouldn't be, you know? The yuck factor is that Aoarashi inhabits the body of Ritsu's father. But he doesn't look like he could be Ritsu's father and he doesn't act like Ritsu's father, or any human being come to that. It should be a clear case of demon x human yum yum yum delicioso. And it's not. The yuck remains, immovably.

So we come to LA Aoarashi, who certainly looks Japanese because he is. He certainly looks like he could be Ritsu's father. Add the living human being factor in and I'd have expected the yuck factor to be squared if not cubed. Um. It's not.

For no good reason I find this rumpled roly-poly teddy-bear Japanese actor far more suggestive of the sinister hence erotic youkai than his fair-haired manga counterpart. Yeah, that's a dragon of sorts there under that skin. (As ever, the chummy and slightly condescending Asian attitude to dragons kerblonxes the westerner in this corner. I'm accustomed to thinking of dragons as magnificent, whatever else they may be. OTOH western dragons don't have pug noses. It's hard to be impressed by something with a pug nose.)

It helps, naturally, that LA Aoarashi's quite upfront about his intentions of eating Ritsu come his eighteenth birthday. None of the youkai-eating-youkai or even -humans subtext in the manga impresses me as the least bit sensuous, but then, none of the youkai in the manga *are* sensuous. LA Aoarashi *is* sensuous and just ripe for demon x human yum yum yum delicioso.

I can only hope that some of my reaction has to do with the presence of sensuous resigned LA Ritsu. (Should be noted that both LA Aoarashi and LA Ritsu are much less effective agents than their manga counterparts.) If I juxtapose LA Aoarashi and chronically kvetchy manga Ritsu... well, the chemistry changes, certainly. Becomes rather more comedic. But it certainly doesn't disappear.
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[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2007-06-14 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Chad is big because he's half-gaijin and all gaijin are big(ger than us). Silent, I always assumed, because he feels out of place among full-Japanese. The manga Ze also has a half-gaijin character who towers over everybody else, in that case to humourous effect.

But the person you need to be looking at is Kaname Tousen (http://www.animegalleries.net/img/119199). Who looks black to me right down to the puzzling and disturbing tendency to make black characters blind: but who is actually a Japanese with cool hair.

And since I have you here- where by God did you find those inksticks that just arrived in the mail? They're gorgeous. Far too gorgeous to use even if I were any kind of inkbrush artist, which I'm not. I can't imagine anyone *wanting* to use them, though I'm sure a classical Chinese would look perplexed and ask what the big deal is. Inksticks- you make ink from them. Why is this a problem? Gaijin me of course is going to spend the next few days deciphering the backs of them: which I'm sure is like reading the ingredients list on a package, but I don't care. Inksticks, OMG! Coloured inksticks! Thank you!
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[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2007-06-14 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Ohh right. You did mention that flea market. Mind like sieve. But god, don't I wish I'd been there, if that's the kind of stuff she had.

Tousen's hair- well, IME only black hair can do cornrows properly. Straight hair, even I'd assume SE Asian thick straight hair, doesn't hold; the lines are straggly, not straight. But as you say, nothing's made of his appearance: hence he's Japanese.

The oddity of Chad as a half-Japanese is that he *is* dark. The cultural conviction that foreigners have blue eyes /always/ has taken a lot of breaking down. Yeah, and it was probably soccer that broke it.

Geordi Laforge on Star Trek, Next Generation is the most obvious example of the blind black character. There's another one that niggles at me and won't come clear- a blind woman this time- but I can't place her.

[identity profile] i-am-zan.livejournal.com 2007-06-15 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
the oracle of 'the matrix'. was blind I think... or maybe not. I thought she was. heh..its the brain not working again.

[identity profile] mvrdrk.livejournal.com 2007-06-15 05:15 am (UTC)(link)
There are asians with wavy hair (Chinese, even), even tightly curly hair, though not as tight as Africa derived hair. You just have to get the right ethnic group.

[identity profile] i-am-zan.livejournal.com 2007-06-15 01:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Hehe, I'm one of those Malay ex-'Minah Rockers' myself. The hair is frizzy in the dry and humid of our LRD, but it flourished into nice curls when I was in the UK. However maybe its age or something the frizz has come out a little.

My girl Shahrazad due to the taming influence of being half English has gorgeous ringlets. Then again I could be biased..but yeah ringlets she has! ^_~

[identity profile] mvrdrk.livejournal.com 2007-06-15 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
But on average height's not cultural. It's nutrition. I've seen plenty of large Mexicans. I've seen shy, quiet ones, too, though they are not the ones who get noticed.

[identity profile] i-am-zan.livejournal.com 2007-06-14 03:12 pm (UTC)(link)
*waves hello sort of* - arm is tired! Make that both arms are barely able to move.

Hmmm. I am enjoying your musings, and am unsure whether I get it or not...I think I do and then I think and think I don't and then again ...aah well I enjoyed them anyway. ^__^


this has nothing to do with anything but perhaps may be of interest. feel free to add stuff as I know she enjoys feedback and discourse should you so wish!

http://www.colorq.org/Glimpses/page.aspx?i=w

me bein' odd, tired and all kinds of weirdness.

one more week of school hols ... *crawls away into hole and dies*

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2007-06-14 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah. Interesting website. I should go look up the dreadlocked guy in Naona Bohra to send to her, supposing I can find him. But again, like Tousen, I think he's a Japanese character drawn to look black, which is different from characters who are specifically stated to be black or Indian or whatever. (There's an example of the former in Slam Dunk- the top school basketball player. He looks totally black, which I figure is intended as visual shorthand for 'he's a *really* good basketball player.' There are also dread-locked Japanese soccer players, doubtless modelled on some RL player I wouldn't know.)

[identity profile] i-am-zan.livejournal.com 2007-06-15 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
There are also dread-locked Japanese soccer players, doubtless modelled on some RL player I wouldn't know.

There ARE some RL Japanese soccer players who HAVE dreadlocked hair, copying some of their other international RL soccer counterparts, although I believe soccer players the world over are prone to fads as much as any teenagers.

Yeah if you can help her, [livejournal.com profile] jun_i expand on her lists she will be happy I am sure. SHe's pretty cool as a person too! ^__^

[identity profile] mvrdrk.livejournal.com 2007-06-15 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
LOL! I loathe sites that automagically resize my browser window ...

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2007-06-15 05:41 am (UTC)(link)
Funny, it didn't resize mine. Which browser do you use?

[identity profile] mvrdrk.livejournal.com 2007-06-15 06:53 am (UTC)(link)
LOL! I use firefox and ie interchangeably. I think this time it was firefox.

[identity profile] mvrdrk.livejournal.com 2007-06-15 07:18 am (UTC)(link)
actually, i just tried it with ie and it resizes ie, too.

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2007-06-15 12:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Odd. My Firefox resizes, IE doesn't. Why does the resizing happen anyway? One of my online games does that and I'd love to be able to stop it.

[identity profile] i-am-zan.livejournal.com 2007-06-15 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
hmmm does it? I'm sorry.

I've never really noticed. then again I always have my widows at half size anyway, so I probably wouldn't if it did! ^__^

Other than taht though I hope you didn't have anyother probs with it!

3rd time lucky...trying this again...

[identity profile] i-am-zan.livejournal.com 2007-06-15 06:03 am (UTC)(link)
I meant windows of course not widows!..oh dear the holidays have taken their toll I'm afraid. One more week.

Re: 3rd time lucky...trying this again...

[identity profile] mvrdrk.livejournal.com 2007-06-15 06:48 am (UTC)(link)
LOL! It was never the less a very interesting site, thank you!