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flemmings ([personal profile] flemmings) wrote2006-12-10 10:34 am

Old Acquaintance

Many happy returns of yesterday, [livejournal.com profile] shiny_monkey!

And speaking of returns of yesterday, I was googling in Japanese for Goujun pics because of that request on the saiyuki community. (Note 1- IME doesn't have Goujun's gou kanji, which I put here for handy ctrl-c'ing 敖潤. Had to pull the hanzi from mandarintools. Not impressed.) (Note 2- that lovely Goujun artist's website has gone from the intarnets. Always DL those stunning pics 'n'fics cause the net is as semper mutabile as we are.) However I did come across something interesting.

This site, basically. Which is a Kenren-uke website: specifically, Goujun x Kenren unless Tenpou is in the picture (literally) and then it's Tenpou x Goujun x Kenren. Blushing uke Kenren, hit on by all the males in his vicinity and helpless before them.

Ahh, how this takes me back to my happy WTF??! fannish days in Japan. And how it reinforces my gut feeling that the Japanese are unfallen and blessed, living in some fannish Eden. Because of course this isn't canon Kenren and of course you couldn't write this Kenren and get away with it. But you can draw him and still retain a sense of conviction. This is a mirror-world Kenren; this is just for fun!Kenren; most of all, this is Kenren's soul we're seeing, not the man himself. The uke-ness of Kenren is not to the pictured Goujun or Tenpou (or Konzen and Gokuu even) but to his own physical nature and sexuality, here conveniently expressed in the form of his various friends and acquaintance. To the extent that physical!Kenren is very much the man himself (and I see little in canon to deny that) these pictures are true.

Japanese fanworks do this all the time, and I burn with envy. I wish you could so easily express shifting levels of reality in fic, but of course it's infinitely harder. People will take words at their face value, and what can you do about it?

All this aside, the artist has contributed a few new 'why didn't *I* think of that?' wrinkles to Goujun lore. One is to do some scenes with- wait for it- dragon form Goujun. That's kind of blinkety-blink fun to think about. Though we're still in A/U soul-picture land and I'm not sure how you'd manage it in text. The other is to point out how nice and cool dragon-scaled Goujun would be on a hot day. True, she says, Heaven is always spring so it's not much to the point 'but I always think Kenren is someone who'd feel the heat.' Me, I can attest that spring in Japan is quite warm enough to be uncomfortable and a scaly dragon might be nice to have, reverse-Eustace on the beach fashion.

(She goes on: "But even so there's something vaguely unicornish about Goujun, in that 'only virgins can touch a unicorn' way. In a certain sense he's the best match for virgin!Kenren-- only Kenren's not a virgin." And now I'm thinking 'Noli me tangere for (fill in name of choice)'s I am/ And wild for to hold, though I seem tame.')

Aahh! Thank you.

[identity profile] i-am-zan.livejournal.com 2006-12-10 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I was just now looking for something to feed the senses with and these did very nicely.

May I stick this in my memory banks?

I am a sucker for Dragons and Unicorns.

Re: Aahh! Thank you.

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2006-12-10 06:14 pm (UTC)(link)
All yours.

The dragon and the unicorn
Were fighting for the crown
The dragon beat the unicorn
All around the town...

Hm. More plot bunnies. Ahoy thar Saiyuuki/ 12 Kingdoms crossover. Or if you keep it the original lion and do a British lion = Chinese tiger thing, then you have unicornish Goujun of the Western Ocean up against Byakko (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Tiger_(Chinese_constellation)) the western Guardian. I've always wanted to bring Byakko into a dragon fic just because he was so much fun in Karin. (Young hero loses consciousness in a snowstorm. Young hero wakes up naked in bed with large blond man. Young hero has fits. Large blond man wonders what his problem is- 'I was just getting you warm again.' 'You mean you didn't- we didn't- ohhh (relief).' Is how I remember the scene.)

Re: Aahh! Thank you.

[identity profile] i-am-zan.livejournal.com 2006-12-10 06:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahahaha!

You know the chinese unicorn is kirin right?

Well as you may have read here or thereabouts we recently took a trip to the night zoo...and the giraffes were labelled, in katakana 'kirin'...so there you go!

According to one historical account, when Admiral Cheng Ho came back from one of his journeys from the Arabic/African continents he brought with him many marvelous creatures one of which was the unicorn. Of course we now know that it was a giraffe he brought back...or was it?

^__^

But if you do come up with anything from these meanderings of the mind...I would so love to see it of course...

and I'm just finishing up last bits and bobs and I will go to bed. Honest!
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[personal profile] incandescens 2006-12-10 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
And yet again, I wish I could draw. At all.

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[personal profile] incandescens 2006-12-10 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
On a brighter note, I've received your card. Thank you! Now I need to send out my own (late, as usual) and hope they get there in time . . .)

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2006-12-10 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Is why I sent mine out early...

[identity profile] avalonjones.livejournal.com 2006-12-10 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I have a few copybook doujinshi--novels--illustrated by this person. They were the ONLY Goujun doujinshi I could find at Winter Comiket last year. One of them has illustrations of either a female Kenren or Kenren with breasts. (....)

Sigh

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2006-12-11 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Such a happy playground, Japanese fandom is. People do gender-switch and there's no fanficrants where other people tell them to stop it no *at once* this very minute. Given how much Japanese society in general minds what other people may be thinking about it, and given how traditional Japanese society is always snarking at people behind their backs, I've often wondered why not. (And think I know the answer: you don't want to be the one snarking in public where strangers can see you doing it. There's probably great flaming posts happening behind whatever the Japanese equivalent of f-lock is.)