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flemmings ([personal profile] flemmings) wrote2005-03-19 10:16 am
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Noted around the FL

So afrai mentions being out of spirits and I- caffeineless, is all I can say for my imbecility- think 'pretty advanced boarding school if they let the kids drink.' Yes, alright. I'm slow in the morning on weekends.

Meanwhile [livejournal.com profile] rushthatspeaks synchronically mentions Great Reading Experiences. It's not always the book, it's sometimes the circumstances; though best of all is the right book and the right circs and how rarely does that happen?

I don't even remember what year it was- 13? 14? when we had an out of season blizzard in December and we all got sent home early. I wandered around the house at the loose end of a disrupted daily schedule. I remember the place as being empty because my mother was out getting my younger brother and sister from their uphill schools and my older bro hadn't come home yet. And so I wandered into the library, one of the tacked-on rooms in that very haphazardly constructed house, that looked out on the back garden. We called it the library because it had built-in bookcases and more books, at least, than any other room. We children rarely went there except on Sundays when people came to dinner and there was a fire in the fireplace; otherwise it had an unused and out-of-the-way feel and smelled of cold woodsmoke.

My mother's books were all incomprehensible fic from the 20's, 30's and 40's: Faulkner and Hemingway and the like. My father's art books had pictures and I wanted text. But wedged between two law books on one shelf was a thin paperback, so I prised it out and started reading and didn't stop:
At the Court of an Emperor (he lived it matters not when) there was among the many gentlewomen of the Wardrobe and Chamber one, who though she was not of very high rank was favoured far beyond all the rest...
It was the first nine chapters of Waley's translation of Genji Monogatari. (And my god I'd forgotten how thoroughly Edwardian-British Waley's Japan is made to sound.)

The snow went on silently filling up the garden; all sounds were muffled and far away; the afternoon light went from cream to grey and eventually I had to turn on a light; and I was in some Elsewhere as removed from the familiar world as this quiet snowy afternoon was distant from my usual homework-and-dinner daily life.

It was one of those seminal experiences, because after that Japan meant snow in my mental image as surely as Chuushingura means snow to the Japanese. The first woodblock print I ever bought was exactly that, that I got for the snowy garden and in spite of it being Chuushingura. Except for the Foxfires, the print that made me happiest was my Lumberyards at Fukugawa for much the same reason.

Oh and of course, there's the whole Japan thing as well. That was probably the start of it, but it took some more serendipity-- an article in Vogue, a review of Sei Shonagon in Life, and The Seven Samurai-- to really get me going.

Another: Lord of the Rings. No-one under the age of 45 is going to understand what that was like when I first met it in 1966. Everyone else grew up with a plethora of Tolkien-clones and fantasy writers in general, to say nothing of a burgeoning YA market and cartoons and comics and you name it. That didn't exist in 1966. There was nothing like it except its very distant cousins in folktale and Norse myth and CS Lewis. It was the first time I'd ever read a complete other world done in such detail and at such length. (People who complain about Tolkien's descriptions make me want to kick them. Middlearth is grounded in a physical reality that no-one else has managed unless they come illustrated: and the more writers try to describe their physical worlds the less convincing they become. Lankhmar Syndrome: have recourse to some General Issue stereotype images (steamy nights, velvety dark, thieves, prostitutes, brothels) and assume you've created a city thereby.)

I began reading it in late February, an odd season here of pogoing temperatures and remaining snow and bright saturated sunlight that makes colours look deeper than they normally do in the thin light of winter; and by dint of holding myself back finished it in mid-March, which that year at least was spring, grey and blowy and untidy in the way of melted snow revealing all last year's detritus. Returned as if from a long voyage to normal Toronto with happy winter gone and the ambiguous feast of Easter approaching. Christmas is plain good news: holidays and happiness and music and cards from friends and presents from family and food. Easter was a long weekend preceded by examinations and Lent and heading into my two least favourite times of the year, a long downward slope ending in the final exams of June and the horrors of summer. Nothing joyful about it at all; even the music is doleful. Very suited to the ending of LotR, by me.

In case you thought this was all in the distant past, much more recently there was Karin. Fall, some NY magazine said, is the best time to do anything. How true. The turning leaf season is like the cherry blossoms: never guaranteed to last long and sometimes not happening at all. But get the right kind of summer- the otherwise unpleasant one of 2003- and the trees here will start turning at the end of September and keep it up well into November. Even the mundane looks better against that backdrop and the extraordinary is... extraordinary.

So there I was in the gold and red October of '03, amazing and unlikely gorgeousness outside my windows, reading steadily through 17 volumes of amazing and unlikely (and gorgeous) Jade Emperors and Daoist Immortals and Pearl Spirits and Guardian Beasts and Western Mothers and Chinese generals and seductive bishounen, all dancing about in a many-stranded and twisty plot, with happily for shoujo a mangaka with a sense of humour in charge of the thing: writing perfectly seriously of course but with an ironic glint in her eye. One cannot ask for more. Well, one can, but CS Lewis (him again) once said that the one thing you must not say to God is 'Encore.' It comes or not, as and when it comes; things met now will rarely seem as wonderful as things met when everything was new; and you can only be delighted that 40 years after the first time it happened it can still happen again.

[identity profile] kickinpants.livejournal.com 2005-03-19 09:53 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for this, and for linking to Rushthatspeaks entry. Both were a pleasure to read, and really got me thinking about things I hadn't thought about in a long time.

(Although I own one of the versions of Genji, I still haven't read it. ^^ Outside of a 3 page excerpt.) Your point about LotR is very true. A lot of readers born after grew up with clones and inspired-by's. To have that before D'n'D and all the swarms of fantasy fiction, then one might understand more why this set of books is so treasured, even with the pages and pages of description. ^_^ (slides away before the kick comes down.)

[identity profile] petronia.livejournal.com 2005-03-19 12:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, LotR was my first epic fantasy, and it was only after that that I got into the genre per se. ^^ (Except for a D&D choose-your-own-adventure book with elves and orcs and things that I didn't understand at all. I re-read it after LotR, and then I understood.)
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[identity profile] mikeneko.livejournal.com 2005-03-19 12:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Yet another mind permanently warped at a young age. I see, I see . . .

pretty advanced boarding school if they let the kids drink.

But they did at [livejournal.com profile] incandescens's. I'm sure she mentioned that once. Somewhere or other.

No-one under the age of 45 is going to understand what that was like when I first met it in 1966.

Well, no. One was learning how to read. A jump from Dr. Seuss to Tolkien would have been asking a bit much. *cough*

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2005-03-19 01:40 pm (UTC)(link)
*Not* quite what I meant. Most younger readers (like yourself) had a bunch of assumptions and background when they first read Tolkien. We had no assumptions at all. He was the first. We didn't relate him to other fantasy writers reworking northern European mythic territory and then sniff But Eddings is a better writer. We just went Wow. (Or not, as was the case of certain sniffy types who thought TH White preferable. Or who, I stongly suspect, couldn't forgive him for being English or Oxbridge or something like that.)
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[identity profile] mikeneko.livejournal.com 2005-03-19 02:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I know. But the real life juxtaposition -- "Green Eggs and Ham" versus "Lord of the Rings" -- just amuses me an awful lot. I'm like that.

I'd a lame notion when young that I would better myself (in some unspecified way) by reading the classics. To that end, I compiled an exceedingly long list from the bibliographies in the back of school textbooks, and proceeded to trudge my way down it. So I don't recall what my assumptions about JRRT were at the time, aside from "See? He's on The List." But, as I recall, I did become mildly fannish. He was a great deal more entertaining than many of his listmates. As you know. :)
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[personal profile] incandescens 2005-03-19 02:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, pupils of 17 or over were allowed to. They were typically in the 6th year (Deputy Grecians, as the year was called) or the 7th year (Grecians). There was a small side building on the site that wass set aside for this, with a bar which was operated by one of the teachers, and a washing-up rota which everyone was on at some point. The only drinks available were beer, cider, or wine -- I honestly don't know what the prices were like compared to the outside world, because I wasn't really noticing at that point (and wasn't really a habituee, either) but I think it was fairly non-profit.

Even then, people smuggled bottles in from time to time. But I suspect having a legal outlet kept it within bounds.

[identity profile] rushthatspeaks.livejournal.com 2005-03-19 01:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Deep, deep envy that you've been able to find and read Hi Izuru Tokoro no Tenshi. I hear legends about it every so often. And I'm adding Karin to my list to, given that article. Thanks for linking to it-- and to me.

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2005-03-19 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
My pleasure. My reading adventures were never as fantastic as yours but I've always been aware of the happy juxtaposition of book and surroundings. Or have been aware since I was 18 and read Sei Shonagon, who was probably the most influential and corrupting author of my life, with her suggestion that real life *could* arrange itself into aesthetically and emotionally satisfying tableaux.

It hurts me sometimes that AFAIK Hi Izuru isn't translated into anything but Chinese. But it would take a fine hand to render the nuances of the period Japanese into English, and the appeal of the work itself is probably limited, so I just can't see an English translation ever. But I wonder if the French would be interested...

(Finding it in Japanese isn't so much a problem now the thing is out in bunko; but I think bunko always does a disservice to the artwork.)
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[personal profile] incandescens 2005-03-19 02:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I wish I could put a finger on some of those points in my life as well as you've put one here on yours. I know there have been some, but I can't remember them.

Reading Monkey, perhaps. Or Sherlock Holmes. Tolkien I'd already been lured into when my parents read The Hobbit as a bedtime story, and getting my own copy of Lord of the Rings for a birthday present at 7 was merely another step forward, not something totally new.

But there must have been something. I'll probably remember after finishing this entry.

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2005-03-19 05:51 pm (UTC)(link)
LotR at 7? Lordy lordy. A prodigy, I always knew it.

The Genji one was seminal enough that I wrote an essay about it in Japanese for one of my courses, is why it at once came to mind. But everyone has their Great Reads. (As in, where were you when you first read Titus Groan?) I'd wager though that people who read slowly, like me, have them more often than those who read fast, like you. In your case the experience is over practically before you've had time to savour it. ^_^
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[personal profile] incandescens 2005-03-19 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
(coughs) I admit there were large chunks of it that I didn't understand. Possibly one reason for my feelings re Denethor was that I honestly didn't understand him or his actions till at least several years later. And Boromir was a Bad, Bad Man.

You may be right about unfortunates who read fast, like me. On the positive side, I can reread books a lot and frequently do -- so I get little but often, you might say. ;)