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flemmings ([personal profile] flemmings) wrote2020-02-08 09:17 pm

Sunny Saturday

But cold, so I stayed indoors. Also walking hurts, and walking on ice hurts more. Shaking off the winter doldrums as best I can, I succeeded in finally vacuuming the downstairs, on the principle that clean makes for cheerfulness. At least I can usually manage dishes and laundry. And then I finally unpacked thd laptop I bought 30 months ago and charged it up. Do not like it, and probably won't like it even if I manage to get Windows7 on it. What I need probably is a Chromebook, because that at least is familiar.

Also started looking through a pile of doujinshi friends left with me when they moved. Supposedly Saiyuki, but mixed in with a bunch of FF7. And oh was that a trip, back to the late 90s and the piles of FF7 I translated for Aestheticism. All those Sid x Vincent stories, though IIRC Fearless Leader was more a Sephiroth x Vincent fangirl. And of course at the time I didn't know that the originals were pixillated Lego people. That would have killed the magic right there.

One of the things that fantodded me a bit about LOTR was the sense of deep time, of all those ages of History behind it, and unexplained history at that. 'The hidden city of Gondolin', you say? and then don't tell me anything more about it. Don't know how I came to be googling LOTR, but I fell into a wiki-shaped hole for a couple of hours trying to make sense of who and what and when. The deep time thing should fantod me less if I remember that from the pov of the elven protagonists, the First Age was maybe 40 years ago if that. But I'm still fantoddy with all the names I can't keep straight and the places I can't place. I need a family tree, printed on paper, and even more, a set of comprehensive historical maps:

"Celeborn and Galadriel traveled first to Lindon, where they ruled over a group of Elves as a fiefdom under Gil-galad. Sometime later, they had a daughter, Celebrían. They moved eastward and established the realm of Eregion, or Hollin, which they ruled under Gil-galad, the High King of the Ñoldor. Eregion, to the west of the Misty Mountains near Moria, was a prosperous kingdom during this time, and had open trade with the Dwarves. Also, during this time, they made contact with a Nandorin settlement in the valley of the Anduin, later to be known as Lothlórien. Subsequently, while Celebrimbor now ruled over Eregion, they left Eregion by way of the mines of Khazad-dûm. After the death of the current King Amdír, in the War of the Last Alliance, and the departure his son on Amroth, Celeborn and Galadriel became the Lord and Lady of Lothlórien." Clear as mud, that.

I suppose most of the history is in The Silmarillion, but I never got anywhere with that. I looked through Unfinished Tales, but that was even worse. Ms traditions are so not my thing.
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[personal profile] kore 2020-02-09 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
"Fantoddy"! <3

I have tried so many times to get into the Silm, and every single time have bounced off like an Olympic high jumper. If there is an infinite number of multiverses with an infinite number of possibilities I am sure in lots of them there are Mois who love and cherish the Silmarillion, but not this one.

[identity profile] i-am-zan.livejournal.com 2020-02-10 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
Hello there stranger ... I know I don't need to be but all the same ...
Sorry for the long silence. Just when you thought things would settle down life throws things at you. Ahahaha!

Of course I wanted to say way back now ... Merry Christmas, Then Happy New Year, and then Happy Birthday ... and then Thank you for the Christmas card (which arrived just after your birthday) and then of course Happy Chinese New Year ... then it all passed me by and really even with life going on, I shouldn't use that as an excuse to stay in touch with friends dear to me. I have trouble even keeping in touch on those that live on the same island with me. *wry smile*

But yes, ALL OF THOSE, and thank you especially for the card. Which I love receiving.

Ugh ... and don't get me started on LOTR, I actually did make the mistake of starting with the Silmarillion, and apart from the Hobbit which was required reading ... it wasn't until all the films had come out and been seen before I read LOTR.

Time sinks and time holes, time drives, warps and tardises ... seems my fandoms all use these time tricks to give them an out should they need one, canon can go hang. But I think I've just resigned myself to these and not bother too much with them otherwise the head would really hurt. ^_^

Much love as ever. - Zan *hugs*

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2020-02-11 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for the holiday/ birthday wishes. Mail was slow bevause IIRC I posted your card a month before my birthday.

Starting with the Silmarillion would be enough to put anyone off Tolkien for life. I think if I'd read even The Hobbit first, I'd never have gone on to LOTR. As it was I started there, and long before there was anything similar written by anyone. (Narnia was the closest thing, but Narnia was British-cozy familiar.) So I was knocked over by it. Now I'm not sure I could even reread it.