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flemmings ([personal profile] flemmings) wrote2010-07-13 09:01 am
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After this, some people stop writing entirely


Dragon WIP:

I write like
Bram Stoker

I Write Like by Mémoires, Mac journal software. Analyze your writing!



Dragon WIP from three years ago:

I write like
Dan Brown

I Write Like by Mémoires, Mac journal software. Analyze your writing!



lj entry:

I write like
Stephen King

I Write Like by Mémoires, Mac journal software. Analyze your writing!



I'm suspicious of these results. I bet they only have five writers' styles analyzed, most of them popular. Except that I c&ped a passage of A Christmas Carol, and they concluded that Dickens wrote like Jane Austen.

[identity profile] mauvecloud.livejournal.com 2010-07-13 05:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I was not able to find more details of the "statistical analysis tool" (a horribly generic term in the not so humble opinion of someone who use various "statistical analysis tools" on a daily basis), but I suspect the tool does nothing more than count keyword frequency and possibly comma (or semicolon, or exclamation mark) usage.

I conclude the results might somehow be dependent on the mode of the fic (which can correlate to fandom).

Anyhow, you all can envy qwerty. She gets W. Shakespeare with this fic :D

[identity profile] mauvecloud.livejournal.com 2010-07-13 05:47 pm (UTC)(link)
oops, linkage here http://www.ficwad.com/story/2243

[identity profile] mmoneurere.livejournal.com 2010-07-13 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I tried a few chapters from a cyborg-theory paper and it always gave me either Margaret Atwood or H.P. Lovecraft, with the odds of the latter being given as a result seeming to correspond to how often the word "evisceration" was used. So yeah, I think vocabulary is a major part of it -- though words per sentence, sentences per paragraph, average word length, and maybe even a few grammatical patterns (tried a short story with more sentence fragments than I usually use and it gave me James Joyce) might be part of it.

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2010-07-13 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Funny she didn't get Homer.

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2010-07-13 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Now I'm intrigued. How often is the word 'evisceration' used in cyborg theory, and in what context?

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2010-07-13 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
You are clearly large and contain multitudes.

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2010-07-13 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
And it might. If they could get Dan Brown from high-level dragon diction...

I mean, so maybe I use the same words as him. But I use them *differently*.

[identity profile] mmoneurere.livejournal.com 2010-07-13 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, it was a little bit of an exercise in extreme rhetoric crossed with a minor case of academic trolling. The evisceration bit came from the idea of the extension of a subject into tools/possessions/material in the cyborg-theory sense; when "property" is experienced as part of the self, then buying/sale/sharing/transfer of property is a form of dismemberment. Evisceration in place of dismemberment was part of a section dealing with ownership of bodies (specifically with slavery as the most extreme case and hierarchies of privilege like phallocentrism as reflections of that) where owned bodies of slaves, women, workers, etc. are "material" to begin with (the "viscera" are property, rather than property being incorporated into an existing body).

[identity profile] avalonjones.livejournal.com 2010-07-14 07:02 am (UTC)(link)
I gave it my most recent LJ entry and it said I write like Stephen King, which irks me because I am not a fan of Stephen King by any means. It also makes me laugh a little--as does its assertion that Dickens writes like Jane Austen!

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2010-07-14 11:17 am (UTC)(link)
Word selection and comment frequency, I'm assuming.

ETA Lj-think strikes again. Comma frequency, I meant of course.
Edited 2010-07-14 11:24 (UTC)

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2010-07-14 11:23 am (UTC)(link)
Three times through and I think I begin to understand that, which is why I'm not an academic. But why-- if I have this correctly-- is selling your house dismembement (in a sense, something 'exterior' to the internal Self) while selling a field hand is evisceration (ripping out an internal part? It should be, but I'm not seeing why it is, at least in the mind of the Self doing the transaction.

[identity profile] feliciter.livejournal.com 2010-07-14 11:42 am (UTC)(link)
Apparently I am a horror writer: got Lovecraft and Stphen King twice each, for different fandoms (and very different fic!). Also Swiftian (2), Dickensian, Chandlerish and Joycean. Am vaguely bemused at getting Dan Brown for a Mushishi fic and JK Rowling for latest travelogue.

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2010-07-14 11:49 am (UTC)(link)
I envy you your Swift and Dickens and Joyce. Evidently my own baroque is pasted on yay.

I think anything written in plain standard gets Stepehen King.

[identity profile] mmoneurere.livejournal.com 2010-07-14 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Let me think through this. In they cyborg-theory sense, things you use are part of you in the way that a bionic arm might be (yeah, cyborg theory is very big on sci-fi-esque analogies). It's part of you, but it's an addition to an "original" body. So a screwdriver, or a car, or a piece of intellectual property can be a site of "dismemberment". But for anyone outside of the assumptions of the mainstream idea of a "self" (basically, anyone who's not a middle- or upper-class white male), there's a sense of coming into existence already composed of property. It ends up being true to a degree for almost everyone -- if everything is already claimed as part of someone (if it's already somebody else's bionic upgrade), then to exist at all we have to be built from those bits of other people's bodies. Our "guts" are divided among other bodies that have prior or more privileged claims to the same bits of material, so this android body (built from spare parts rather than enhanced based on a self-owned body) comes into being already eviscerated.