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flemmings ([personal profile] flemmings) wrote2005-02-26 10:20 pm
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I'm leisurely viewing Fruits Basket the anime, having read vol 1 of the manga in the three (only) languages I can read, which is something of a record. What's more I've seen eps 1-12 in order, also something of a record if you know how I used to get my anime.

Bref: my sister's trader would tape anything he thought might interest her including reruns, and send her the tapes at random. Thus I saw chunks of Escaflowne in pick-up-sticks order (aka the I Ching method: drop the eps on the floor and start with whichever is uppermost) until Greer sent me it properly; and chunks of Evangelion ditto. My sister has no interest in Eva but Shuzo obviously thought she should, and would send her duplicate eps from different reruns. I formed no desire to see the whole thing, which struck me as ridiculously overrated. Yes, even though I saw the final episodes. Mecha and insecure males and what's so ground-breaking about *that*?

However the rental place is missing vols 3 & 4 of FB, so I shall now switch into my usual WTF's going on mode. Which is also fine by me. I hope to go from the present pleasant comedy into the extreme nastiness everyone talks about. If I were younger I'd be itching to write the Sohma household, if only because of the house itself. (Well, and for all the other reasons. Dysfunctional families rule OK.) I don't keep up with the fandom so I've no idea what's transpired manga-wise since the Awful Revelation. One doesn't see much of Akito in eps 1-12, but myself I think if I'd been a fan I might have cheered at the news. Or cheered until a little cold reflection suggested that vestigial secondary sexual characteristics are not conclusive proof of what a character has between their legs, let alone which chromosomes they have. (And from the scan, man, they looked *very* vestigial. Couldn't understand what the fuss was about until someone said aloud what they were supposed to be.)

Tohru is so eminently likable though, that one expects her to triumph even in the face of extreme nastiness. I've no idea why she isn't insupportable except that the manga has its tongue slightly but affectionately in its cheek when it regards her genkiness and enthusiasm and determination to ganbaru despite all. I never get the impression that the series intends Tohru to be prescriptive or a role-model. She's more Mother Theresa-ish: someone you admire but wouldn't think of emulating except in minor ways, because she's basically... a different order of person from us. (Except that it's hard to like Mother Theresa and very easy to like Tohru.) Tohru's one of those talismanic people that congenital melancholics and malcontents (and realists too I suppose) like to have around because they demonstrate that, however gloomy the world looks like to us, for some people the sun still shines, and so sunshine is possible.

[identity profile] kickinpants.livejournal.com 2005-02-26 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
FB really is a wonderful series- warm and sweet and sad and great. You're up to 12, so you've seen some of my favorite episodes already, like #8, which always made me cry. Such a wonderful show.

And Tohru is really interesting because if you just hear the premise- girl lives with house of hot guys (who can't touch her, but all care for her)- it sounds like Mary-Sue-Central ala Miaka of FY. But she has to live through a lot of crap, her not-cool family, carrying around her grief over her mother while still trying to be genki, working at night as a janitor so she doesn't depend totally on the Sohma clan. You really feel for her. (Plus, I love her two friends, the former "yankee" and the psychic girl.)

I hope you find tapes 3 and 4 soon. If you ever want it on CD, let me know.

[identity profile] petronia.livejournal.com 2005-02-26 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Evangelion doesn't seem ground-breaking now because of a slew of imitators, but at the time (good lord the thing is a full decade old come to think of it) I don't think there had been a mecha series that revolved so much around character psychology, let alone that of a cast of insecure, traumatized neurotics - the women in Evangelion outnumbering and being even worse basket cases than the men. Whether or not it makes for a pleasant viewing experience is a different question. (The mecha designs themselves were innovative, or pretended to be, but I don't think you want to hear me descend into "Gainax ripped off Five Star Stories" fanboy otakuism. XD)

In retrospect Evangelion is overrated, if only because it's pretty much been canonized, when anyone who thinks they can get the so-called symbolism or indeed plot to make logical sense is deluding themselves. But at the time there was nothing like it to mess with one's head, especially in the Western anime fandom. One had to wait two years for Utena to come along.

(Also the final episodes are awful, a complete joke.)

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2005-02-27 05:16 am (UTC)(link)
When my computer's CD drive starts functioning again...

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2005-02-27 06:26 am (UTC)(link)
I thought the-- mh? third last? second last? ep was amazing for what it was supposed to be. But then it did it again. And again. And again. The symbolism was an unholy mess, but it generally is when people, east or west, start picking over Jewish apocrypha and Kabbalah. 'Oooh *that* sounds cool I'll throw it in as well.'
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[personal profile] incandescens 2005-02-27 01:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm enjoying FB myself a lot (the manga -- up to vol 11 or 12 in French) and I think, as you say, the reason that Tohru is tolerable is because you really aren't supposed to regard her as being achievable or even necessarily the best choice in life. Her friends are much more human than she is. (And yes, I like the tuff ex-gang girl.)

[identity profile] mvrdrk.livejournal.com 2005-03-02 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Tohru is so eminently likable though

She is, isn't she. In a way that many other similar characters aren't. I think it's because she has a balance of considering other peoples feelings and her own feelings. That and she learns from her mistakes, which many similar characters don't.